Monday, February 23, 2009

It Makes No Sense To Me

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It sorts figures that this is the only Riverdales record I own-- y'know, the one with the hockey song on it. I think I like punk rock only slightly more than I like hockey, but hockey's still better than bands that sound like a carbon copy of the Ramones, except if the band is Head, or Boris The Sprinkler covering "End Of The Century", and then it's a tie.

"Blood On The Ice" was also the name of a hockey newsletter that Ben Weasel used to write about the Chicago Wolves back when they were still in the lowly IHL. I don't have my copy anymore-- just a partial scan of the front cover-- but it wasn't that bad, really. Not as good as the hockey stories that Jason Schreurs used to write for his zine, but still better than the huge Riverdales interview that ran in MRR when they were only just getting started, with Ben already explaining how Riverdales songs were gonna get played on the radio and insisting over and over, "you guys won't like us, we're not a punk band this time, we sound like '50s rock." Okay, looks like you got me with that one, smart guy.


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Riverdales -

"Blood On The Ice"

"No Sense"

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37 comments:

Sean said...

I side with Canada when it comes to the hockey-punk..those Hanson Brothers do it the best (with apologies to Two Man Advantage). Mr. Weasel always made me bristle a little, but I did appreciate the column he devoted to finding out about The Fastbacks late in the game and going nuts trying to find a copy of "Very, Very Powerful Motor" which I was ALMOST moved to package up and send to him.

This sounds better to me now than it did then..and makes me want to hunt down the album. Worst use of John Yates/Stealworks for design though! I'd expect a picture of Theo Fleury, toothless grin and all, smacking hand grenades into a goalie or something...I guess the ol' ugly guys in leather holding up a brick wall fit the bill for them!

Brushback said...

I had a copy of "Very Powerful Motor", I didn't think it was all that hard to find back then...

gsdgsd13 said...

Do you remember what the meaning of the big "27" was in connection with the Riverdales (and maybe his other bands, I don't remember)? I had completely forgotten about it until I saw the back cover scan here.

I remember being kind of excited about the possibility of another hockey-centric band, but that didn't last long. Think I liked his zine though.

Brushback said...

If "27" means anything specifically, it was never explained to me. A bunch of bands used it, just as some sort of insider obscure reference, I guess. "23" was another one.

Sean said...

Apparently, 27 has some sort of numerological significance..though I prefer to think it's the IQ level of their lyrics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/27_(number)

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

An ex of mine married B-Weez, which is incredibly funny if you've ever seen his quote saying "We (S.Weasel) wanted to BE AOD"!

a little TOO derivative, dude!

but it's cool and I went to visit her and him once and she had to wake him up to pay for the thai food we had ordered.

So I came back to CT and wrote a New Reagans song called "The Thai Food That Pop-Punk Bought"!

Brushback said...

Wait, Ben Weasel's current wife is your ex? The one he's married to now, out at the farm in Wisconsin or wherever?

Sean said...

I've got a couple ex girlfriends whose contact info I'd be happy to trade with Jughead or Dan Vapid for a copy of "Boogadaboogadaboogada!" on Roadkill.

Songs about food always have the best stories behind them!

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

yeppers! Sara! Her and her sister were locals back in the day.

"they say you been biting my style, sleepin' with my ex for a while, not like you did it all for naught, I ate the thai food pop-punk bought, and it was good"!

I'll take the gentlemanly high road and just say, I got the better of the deal.

Brushback said...

Holy cripes, Bruce, that's hilarious.

Ben and the Mrs. are expecting twins, by the way-- maybe we should all pass the hat and send them a card...

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

that would be funny too, 'cause she still owes me money!

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

I forgot, "Thai Food" is still up on here:
www.myspace.com/newreagans

Brushback said...

Holy crap, I'm practically rolling out of my chair over here.

Not to mention that I got plucked to review the A.O.D. "Wacky Hi Jinks" CD for Jersey Beat only after Ben Weasel refused to do it. IT'S ALL CONNECTED!!

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

LOL! This only goes to prove what I've been saying for years...it wasn't easy being "the cute one" in AOD...and the talented one.

Brushback said...

Yeah, I think that's exactly what my review said.

Jersey Beat said...

Ben's never actually explained the mystical significance of "27" but it goes way back before the Riverdales. The first Screeching Weasel demo tape that predates the self/titled LP had 27 songs on it.

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

oooh I suppose a Testa/Run-It summit would be as good a moment as any to ask if either of you knows what the Mag Wheel "history of Zero Boys" disc has on it that's different from B-Weez's reissue?

Brushback said...

Hopefully Jim can answer that one, because I've only been paying a little bit of attention to the Zero Boys re-issue (though it was blasting over the system at Redscroll Records when I went there the other day, and sounded really really good). I still have my original copy of the "History Of" cassette, and that's good enough for me.

Jersey Beat said...

The only Zero Boys cd I own is the Panic Button reissue of Vicious Circle. Sorry.

Brushback said...

Jim, you've failed us once again.

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

If memory serves me correct...I believe the drawing on the cover of "vicious circle", was done by the guy who later sang for Bullet LaVolta.

I don't know how or why I would know this...but neither of YOU TWO mentioned it, and I am now considering leaving you out of my new video game concept called ZINE EDITOR HERO!

Sean said...

First off, it's nice to see in this day and age that responses to a Riverdales post top the Obits one! Punk isn't dead..just a little senile and fighting over the last pudding cup.

Yuki Gipe, of Bullet LaVolta, did a few album covers..none of which I can recall at the moment..and also ended up in that Matador band Kustomized with one of the Mission Of Burma fellas. I was heading up to Boston to catch the Bullet LaVolta/Jawbox show and stopped at Looney Tunes to add some vinyl ballast to my backpack. I picked up a copy of "The Gift" and brought it to the counter. The guy behind the counter was fifty questions..."oh, you like these guys?..yeah? going to the show tonight? Well, if they suck make sure you throw some eggs!". I get to the show and of course the guy behind the counter turned out to be Yuki Gipe. This started a cross-state, multi-record store pattern of unknowingly buying records FROM people in the band I'm purchasing. (Drop Dead, Poison Idea, Jon Cougar Concentration Camp, Crackerbash, Six Finger Satellite..).

Oh, and Bruce...can you give me the secret code to unlock the Yohannon god-mode on "Zine Editor Hero?" I can't get the golden Kinko's copy card without it.

Bruce/NEW REAGANS said...

"can you give me the secret code to unlock the Yohannon god-mode on "Zine Editor Hero?"

I can only tell you that it's a Rhythm Pigs lyric!

Brushback said...

Tim Yohannan wasn't really a zine editor-- he suckered kids into doing all of the work for free.

Meanwhile, he paid for his car and apartment with all the money that came in from MRR. Yeah, punk rock, man, whatever.

Jersey Beat said...

You want to know about Yuki Gipe, go ask Al Quint.

I just handle the Bongos trivia.

Brushback said...

Yeah, I knew the thing about Kurt (Yukki Gipe) being from Indiana and doing some artwork before he moved to Boston, and so forth. I kinda wasn't all that into his "personna" to start off with, but then came Kustomized and The Konks (both great) and I had to change my thinking a bit...

I've never bought a record while one of the guys in the band was working the counter; I stood in line at a McDonald's in New Haven with two guys from The Muffs standing behind me, though.

Sean said...

Did he order a Muffburger? Bonus points if it was the guy from the Muffs AND White Flag who did the ordering. And wait a minute...are insinuating that the MRR headquarters wasn't a well oiled bunker of utopian cram-it-to-the-man-sideways bliss with no bias and equal division of work and labor and the highest cover art standards this side of "Slug & Lettuce"? *sniff* my iron-clad constructs, shattered on the floor and giving me tetanus!

There are no more brain cells I can dedicate to arcane Yuki Gipe knowledge, but I'd pay at least $5 to hear Mr. Quint talk about Unnatural Axe on the a-side of a spoken word 7" and parking lot stories from The Channel on the flip! But I'm an idiot like that.

Sean said...

Oh, and as fate would have it...I was the 27th comment on the 27th day. Perhaps the Riverdales had the ultimate foresight?

Someday I'll muster up the courage to pester Jim about the "Numbers With Wings" LP (I still think its a better feather in Hoboken's cap than Yo La Tengo!) and Bruce about the Rhythm Pigs/Dischord connection, and if I ever dig out my Amtrak Hockey jersey with the guy on skates racing the train in some sort of death match, it's all yours Mr. Brushback for bothering to maintain such an engaging forum. The verification for this message, incidently, is appropriately Freudian as well...idflaw!

Brushback said...

MRR might've been cool for the first few dozen issues or so, but that zine was started by a bunch of smelly 60's hippies who weren't really punk at all.

I have one parking lot story from The Channel: they wouldn't let me in to a Big Black show because they wouldn't take my out-of-state ID (meaning I was standing out in the parking lot wondering what to do the rest of the night), so I ended up going to see Rank and File at TT The Bear's, who sucked big time. Thanks a lot, Channel!!

Brushback said...

Amtrak sold a hockey jersey? That's gotta be funny.

Sean said...

I think it must've been an employee pick-up team or community league from the Nighthawks era. The graphic is priceless...just a guy and his stick skating all out versus the 5:15 to Grand Central, in striking red white and blue for extra patriotic fervor. I'm going to have to find it now.

Chris said...

I found a copy of Factsheet Five at my parents' house recently. I miss that 'zine.

Brushback said...

The newer issues of Factsheet Five (once they went to the glossy cover) were pretty good, as far as something to read on the bus or whatever. The older issues, when it was being put out by one guy in Upstate New York, are kinda dry.

I got reviewed in one of the original Factsheet Fives once as "obscure, cruel, and unusual".

Chris said...

The upstate New York guy: Mike Gunderloy?

I don't think I saw the glossy cover edition but I pretty much stopped reading any 'zines regularly some time in the early nineties.

Brushback said...

Yeah, Mike Gunderloy.

The first Flipside I ever bought had an interview with Mike Gunderloy in it, when Flipside used to do a "Zine Editor of The Month" thing. It made Factsheet Five sound kinda cool, but in reality it was like reading a dictionary.

The glossy-covered FF5's that came out in the 90's, while still crap, at least had a little more zip to their writing, and some articles and zine gossip and stuff like that. It was always kinda funny to read about which zine editors were feuding with each other (something that Zine World later brought to perfection).

Brushback said...

The mp3 files on this post are now listen-only (non-downloadable) files. I will do my best to respond to any e-mailed requests for the original files, if anyone's dumb enough to ask.

Anonymous said...

definitely 27 is the date when Ben Weasel met his old wife. 7th of february.