tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post4749219243456100082..comments2024-03-17T08:00:53.335-04:00Comments on One Base on an Overthrow: My World Is Broken And You Have To Fix ItBrushbackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-70927919057838447262009-08-15T21:24:31.213-04:002009-08-15T21:24:31.213-04:00The mp3 files on this post are now listen-only (no...The mp3 files on this post are now listen-only (non-downloadable) files. <br /><br />Normally I'd offer to e-mail the original files to anyone who asks, but both files are over 10mb, which is too large to send as an attachment.<br /><br />Plus, mr. hippie here ruined it for everyone by lying and telling me that his letter was never printed in Conflict, when I SAW IT WITH MY OWN FUCKEN EYES. Jeezus christ, I know I get some things wrong around here, but why would I even buy a Thing record in the first place if I wasn't already curious about them from reading Conflict, anyway? I mean, it's not like the sleeve of this record just jumps out and says "BUY ME".Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-58732803895684213202009-07-06T10:24:17.870-04:002009-07-06T10:24:17.870-04:00Thanks for agreeing that my own personal opinions ...Thanks for agreeing that my own personal opinions are, in fact, made up.<br /><br />As it happens, I've posted some Das Damen tracks on this blog anyway, so people can compare the two records on their own if they want to.<br /><br />I was around in NYC during the 80's buying records and going to shows as well, and to suggest that The Thing were anywhere close to the same level as Unsane or Das Damen or Monster Magnet (just to throw some names out there) is kind of misleading... no matter what you've been able to get added into books and documentaries after the fact.<br /><br />And I personally remember reading stuff in Conflict-- not even knowing who "Sal C." was at the time, it would be hard for me to make this stuff up. If you have all of those old issues of Conflict, though, I'd love to borrow them from you.<br /><br />I can see what you clicked on to enter this site, which tells me that you're hardly as anonymous and impartial as you're trying to suggest. I appreciate anyone who comes here to provide counterpoint to what I write, though; there's always tons of things that I don't know, or I'm forgetting... especially anyone who wants to talk about the '80s, because there's some stories to tell from back then without a lot of people around to tell them.Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-78718361775529684412009-07-05T23:21:01.397-04:002009-07-05T23:21:01.397-04:00Now this stuff you wrote about The Thing is all fa...Now this stuff you wrote about The Thing is all fabrication. I don't understand why you would make up a lot of bullshit.<br /><br />I was there to see all those early White Zombie, Live Skull, Das Damen, The Thing shows at CBGB and elsewhere back in the day in the mid and late 1980s.<br /><br />The Thing didn't sound at all like Das Damen, they were very popular in NYC and Europe, drawing over 500 people per show. They even recorded a John Peel session in 91 for BBC radio.<br /><br />Plus, there is NO issue of Conflict with any letters from Sal Canzonieri printed in them, as I have every issue of that zine and just looked through all of them and there isn't any at all.<br /><br />There's documentary of the NYC 1980s music scene coming out and all these bands are featured in it, including The Thing.<br /><br />Also, many music history books have credited The Thing and other NYC bands of that time period with developing from Noise Rock (such as The Unsane) into what later became called Stoner Rock (once Monster Magnet was around). It was called "Psychedelic Punk" or "Acidcore" at that time, actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-14801755973219490302009-05-13T21:50:00.000-04:002009-05-13T21:50:00.000-04:00Low point of the Damned? The inclusion on the Miam...Low point of the Damned? The inclusion on the Miami Vice II soundtrack..which is scrubbed from their official discography! But I own it, yes I do I do! There's a Capt. Sensible solo album that has a "what the?!?!" factor much in the way the Dee Dee Ramone solo thing does. I was supposed to go to this show for free and got benched by life..I've always thought they were kind of like a Gilligan's Island band come to life (yeah, I know Steve Shelley and Jad Fair made The Mosquitos real!), but I'd still grab "Machine Gun Etiquette" and "Damned Damned Damned" in a fire.Seanhttp://www.myspace.com/wiresinthewallsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-10218656585779588282009-05-12T15:54:00.000-04:002009-05-12T15:54:00.000-04:00I love seeing shows like this in CT, 'cause they a...I love seeing shows like this in CT, 'cause they are never as crowded as NYC. case in point...I was able to stand directly in front of Sensible so he could hear all my heckles. <br /><br />They played a lot of old stuff opening with Love Song, and throwing in a few I was not expecting like "Dozen Girls", and "Second Time Around". <br /><br />Previously I've passed on seeing a non-Rat Scabies line-up of the band...but as I've learned myself...a younger drummer makes old punks seem faster. <br /><br />encore, Smash It Up.Bruce Scabiesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-77919723051204699352009-05-12T14:55:00.000-04:002009-05-12T14:55:00.000-04:00Hey-- where's the show review? What songs did the...Hey-- where's the show review? What songs did they play? Did they go back to the old records?Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-47303850880752789402009-05-12T14:38:00.000-04:002009-05-12T14:38:00.000-04:00Hey my last comment disappeared into the ether!
P...Hey my last comment disappeared into the ether!<br /><br />Point being...they were better than I anticipated. But I still wouldn't bet $20 on a bad brains ticket!<br /><br />You're welcome!!Bruce Sensiblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-19089553725928569272009-05-12T12:44:00.000-04:002009-05-12T12:44:00.000-04:00By the way, Bruce, we younger folks appreciate you...By the way, Bruce, we younger folks appreciate you suffering so that us young'uns could enjoy cool punk rock in the '80s and '90s!Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-3710722726404629032009-05-12T12:12:00.000-04:002009-05-12T12:12:00.000-04:00AHA! See, I've heard "Damned Damned Damned" and "...AHA! See, I've heard "Damned Damned Damned" and "Neat Neat Neat" and all of that... but I thought we were talking about paying $22 to see The Damned play in 2009! That's a no-go there, buster!Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-77442265844997923372009-05-12T12:01:00.000-04:002009-05-12T12:01:00.000-04:00you crazy kids and your wacky belief there was pun...you crazy kids and your wacky belief there was punk and hardcore made in the late 80's!<br /><br />It makes me sorry jocks yelled "DEVO SUCKS" at me just so you could not like The Damned! LOL!<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOraUh1AyM<br /><br />get yourself the first LP before I have to call Joe Stumble and tell him of your unforgivable blunder!Bruce Sensiblenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-10414015965913657522009-05-12T10:45:00.000-04:002009-05-12T10:45:00.000-04:00Yeah, all you old guys are into "Machine Gun Etiqu...Yeah, all you old guys are into "Machine Gun Etiquette". I remember listening to it specifically because Jim Spad (Vatican Commandos) told me that he figured it to be the first 'hardcore' record.<br /><br />No doubt the early Damned records were great, but here's what I remember from The Damned in the late '80s: "Elll-oh-WEEEEEEEEEZZZZZ!" Fuck that shit.<br /><br />Oh, and I still happen to have one Damned LP on vinyl - it's the one with the strawberries and the pig on the cover. It's awful.Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-60714730473066617952009-05-12T10:31:00.000-04:002009-05-12T10:31:00.000-04:00well we've all got a little liza minnelli in us, s...well we've all got a little liza minnelli in us, smart ass! (you knew that was coming eventually, right?)<br /><br />Goth? Goth got nothing to do with it. <br /><br />MACHINE GUN ETIQUETTE is one of the best punk rock albums of all time.<br /><br />The early Misfits ripped them off COMPLETELY (only failing to get the humor 'cause they were dumb jocks from Lodi).Bruce Weaselnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-86518500386446877462009-05-11T14:22:00.000-04:002009-05-11T14:22:00.000-04:00Yeah, I knew about that show, but it was 20 bucks ...Yeah, I knew about that show, but it was 20 bucks and I didn't think it would be worth that much to see a bunch of goth Liza Minellis.Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-84503308935901485852009-05-11T14:12:00.000-04:002009-05-11T14:12:00.000-04:00I just saw Sal last night opening for The Damned a...I just saw Sal last night opening for The Damned at Toad's.Bruce Weaselnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-62119255792603432372009-05-11T10:21:00.000-04:002009-05-11T10:21:00.000-04:00Pretty hippie-ish "thank you list" and packaging, ...Pretty hippie-ish "thank you list" and packaging, I gotta think. These bands (Das Damen, The Thing, etc.) are always claiming that they pre-dated "grunge" and "stoner rock", but their paisley graphics give that one away.Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-33042410965115087912009-05-11T10:03:00.000-04:002009-05-11T10:03:00.000-04:00This was worth it just for the thank you list, alt...This was worth it just for the thank you list, although leaving off "air, water, and Donny the Punk" surely caused some letters to fanzines back in the infancy of the 90s.Seanhttp://www.myspace.com/wiresinthewallsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-42676355790396157512009-05-09T11:03:00.000-04:002009-05-09T11:03:00.000-04:00All the squiggly designs on the record sleeve scre...All the squiggly designs on the record sleeve screwed with my camera, that's for sure.Brushbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14439601217855895036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2239910173455706271.post-72805256868383387962009-05-08T22:24:00.000-04:002009-05-08T22:24:00.000-04:00That's madness. At least one of those designs is s...That's madness. At least one of those designs is straight off an old Irish coin, out of circulation since the Euro.Karlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12099715847529383135noreply@blogger.com